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Money or Life – Interactive Lesson B

Hi, this is AJ, welcome to part B lesson for our interactive this month’s VIP. In this part I will ask questions and you should answer. When you answer use a strong voice, smile and give short answers. Short answers are fine. You can just say yes, no or one or two words that’s okay. If you’re more advanced try to give longer answers, full phrases or even full sentences. Try to answer very, very quickly.

Let’s begin…

We looked up frugal in a dictionary

Which word did they look up?

Frugal, the author looked up frugal, the word frugal.

Frugality means economical or thrifty

Does frugal mean to be a spendthrift?

No, no, no, frugal does not mean to be a spendthrift. A spendthrift is a person who spends a lot of money. Frugal is the opposite it means to be careful with spending.

It means to be careful with your expenditure of resources.

Your what of resources?

Your expenditure of resources.

What does expenditure mean?

It means spending, spending. Expenditure…

When we dig deeper into the meaning of frugal, you find it has the ideas of virtue, value and enjoyment.

When you dig what?

When you dig deeper.

Do you dig deeper or do you dig more shallow, more shallowly?

You dig deeper. Dig deeper.

Does this mean to look more or to look less?

It means to look more, to look more carefully, to dig deeper.

When you dig deeper about the definition of frugal, it has the ideas of what?

Goodness, which also means virtue, virtue.

Virtue means what?

It means goodness.

Does the word frugal have the idea of virtue?

Yes it does, it has the idea of virtue, of goodness.

It also has the idea of what?

Value and enjoyment.

Which word has the idea of value and enjoyment, the ideas of value and enjoyment?

Frugal… frugal or frugality have the ideas of enjoyment and virtue, and value.

Is this an emotional word or is it colorless?

Well, the first definition was colorless. The first definition was colorless, but the deeper definition is emotional, is deeper.

Now we’re talking.

Does the author agree with the deeper meaning?

Yes, the author agrees with the deeper meaning.

Does the author agree a little bit or does the author agree enthusiastically?

The author agrees enthusiastically.

What does the author say or write?

Now we’re talking, now we’re talking.

Now we’re talking shows what kind of agreement?

Enthusiastic, enthusiastic agreement. The phrase now we’re talking shows enthusiastic agreement.

The author says that’s interesting, in fact, it’s more than interesting it’s what?

It’s transforming. It’s transforming. It causes a big change, a huge change.

Does it cause a small change if it’s transforming?

No, no, no, if it’s transforming it causes a big, thorough change.

If you have 10 dresses but still feel you have nothing to wear, you’re probably a what?

Probably a spendthrift, a spendthrift.

Does a spendthrift spend a little money or a lot of money?

A spendthrift spends a lot of money.

What kind of person spends a lot of money?

A spendthrift. A spendthrift spends a lot of money.

Is a spendthrift frugal?

No, no, a spendthrift is not frugal it’s the opposite. A spendthrift likes to spend a lot of money irresponsibly.

But, if you have 10 dresses and have enjoyed wearing all of them for years you are what?

You are frugal. You are frugal.

So, being frugal is measured not by your penny pinching, but by your degree of enjoyment of what you have.

Penny pinching, does that mean to spend a lot?

No, no, no, no, no, penny pinching means to spend almost nothing. It means to be stingy. We can also describe a person as a penny pincher, a penny pincher.

So, is a penny pincher a spendthrift?

No, no they’re opposites. A penny pincher is not a spendthrift.

A spendthrift spends how much money?

A lot, a spendthrift spends a lot of money.

A penny pincher spends how much money?

Almost nothing. A penny pincher spends almost nothing.

Is a frugal person a hedonist?

No, no, a frugal person is not a hedonist.

What do hedonists want most?

Hedonists mostly want pleasure and luxury. They want pleasure and luxury.

Are hedonists careful with their spending?

No, probably not, hedonists enjoy having too much.

They enjoy excessive what?

Hedonists enjoy excessive consumption. Hedonists enjoy excessive, too much, consumption.

Do they enjoy a little consumption or do hedonists enjoy excessive consumption?

Hedonists enjoy excessive consumption.

Do frugal people enjoy excessive consumption?

No, no, no, no, frugal people do not enjoy excessive consumption. Frugal people get value from everything. For example, a Dandelion or a bouquet of roses.

Do frugal people get value from some things or from everything?

Frugal people, ideally, get value from everything.

Do hedonists revel in pleasure?

Yes they do, hedonists revel in pleasure. They completely enjoy pleasure.

Do hedonists revel in pleasure too much?

Yes, hedonists revel in pleasure, they enjoy pleasure too much.

For example, maybe a hedonist might be an alcoholic, they enjoy the alcohol too much.

Does hedonism, the idea, imply excess or moderation?

Hedonism implies excess. Hedonism implies too much.

Hedonism implies what?

Excess. It suggests excess. It suggests too much. Too much of everything.

Can a frugal person enjoy a gourmet meal?

Yes, a frugal person can sometimes enjoy a gourmet meal.

What kind of meal is a gourmet meal, high quality or low quality?

High quality, a gourmet meal is a high quality meal.

In a restaurant are gourmet meals usually cheap or expensive?

They’re usually expensive. Gourmet meals in restaurants are usually quite expensive.

A frugal person can also enjoy very simple food such as eating a single orange.

Do frugal people enjoy all kinds of meals?

Yes, they enjoy all kinds of meals… gourmet meals and simple meals.

Do they thoroughly enjoy meals or do they just a little bit enjoy?

They thoroughly enjoy eating meals. They relish each meal.

Do they relish each meal or do they not enjoy each meal?

They relish each and every meal. They thoroughly and completely enjoy every meal. They enjoy the texture of the food.

What is the texture of the food?

It’s the feeling of the food, the feeling of the food, the texture of the food.

They enjoy the flood of flavor when they bite down on food.

Do they enjoy just a little bit of flavor or do they enjoy a lot of flavor suddenly?

They enjoy the flood of flavor, the sudden large amount of flavor, each time they take a bite.

Who enjoys the flood of flavor each time they take a bite?

Frugal people. Frugal people enjoy the flood of flavor each time they take a bite of food.

People who want more and more and more, and do not enjoy what they have, are missing the point of being alive.

Do people who want more and more and more always, without enjoyment, do they understand the meaning of life?

No, they are missing the point of being alive.

They’re missing what?

They’re missing the point of being alive.

Are they understanding or misunderstanding?

They are misunderstanding. They are not understanding, they are missing the point of being alive.

These people do not enjoy material things, instead they enjoy what they symbolize… conquest, status, success, achievement.

Do they enjoy material things or do they only enjoy what they symbolize?

They only enjoy what they symbolize, what they show.

Do they enjoy conquest?

Yes they enjoy conquest, they enjoy winning.

Do they enjoy winning or do they enjoy losing?

They enjoy winning. They enjoy conquest.

Do they want status?

Yes, they want status.

What kind of status do they want?

High status. They want to show high status.

Do they want to show high status or do they want to show low status?

They want to show high status.

Once we’ve acquired the dream house, the status car or the perfect mate we rarely stop to enjoy them thoroughly. Once we’ve acquired the dream house… Once we’ve gotten the dream house or sold the dream house?

Once we’ve gotten the dream house. Once we’ve bought or gotten the dream house.

Do we usually enjoy it thoroughly?

Oh, according to the author no. Once we’ve gotten the dream house, we rarely stop to enjoy it thoroughly.

Do we often stop to enjoy the dream house or the status car, or do we rarely stop to enjoy them?

We rarely stop to enjoy them, almost never.

Instead, we’re off and running after the next coveted what?

The next coveted acquisition.

We go and try to get the next coveted what?

Acquisition.

What kind of acquisition do we try to get?

Coveted, coveted acquisition.

Coveted means strongly desired.

So what kind of acquisition are we off to get?

Coveted, we’re off to get the next coveted acquisition.

Okay, that’s all.

This month a lot of vocabulary. This essay is a little difficult, lots of new vocabulary, lots of phrases. If it’s difficult for you, use the text. Read the essay, read the lesson, take your time go slowly, understand all of the vocabulary. Then, listen to these audios, the interactive A and interactive B every day, every day at least once; twice is even better. Answer the questions with a strong loud voice in part B here. Take your time. After one week, two weeks, even three weeks, you will understand better.

Okay, see you in the commentary.

Bye for now.